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	<title>Comments on: Where the HTML4.0 did they come from?</title>
	<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/</link>
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		<title>by: hank</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-841</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:31:38 +1000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes fine sir, &lt;em&gt;fieldset&lt;/em&gt; is one of my favourite xHTML elements, along with its accompanying &lt;em&gt;legend&lt;/em&gt;. Check out  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kfc.com.au/default.asp?page=/contact+us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KFC Australia's contact form&lt;/a&gt;. Here fieldset is used to logically delineate discrete form components to the user, and it helps to present it in a way that is not just one big mean form. Further, in xHTML (I know you're talking about HTML 4 but really, who cares about that...) you need block elements within your form to &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;amp;uri=http%3A//mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;validly&lt;/a&gt; contain your labels and inputs, etc. Also, when you're like me and looking for as many semantically correct hooks to tie your CSS to, fieldset is a winner.

Another interesting, ofttimes misused and obscure tag for you is the &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.5.6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;address&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; tag. It is not just used for any old address, but specifically for the contact details of the owner/publisher of the document.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes fine sir, <em>fieldset</em> is one of my favourite xHTML elements, along with its accompanying <em>legend</em>. Check out  <a href="http://www.kfc.com.au/default.asp?page=/contact+us" rel="nofollow">KFC Australia&#8217;s contact form</a>. Here fieldset is used to logically delineate discrete form components to the user, and it helps to present it in a way that is not just one big mean form. Further, in xHTML (I know you&#8217;re talking about HTML 4 but really, who cares about that&#8230;) you need block elements within your form to <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/" rel="nofollow">validly</a> contain your labels and inputs, etc. Also, when you&#8217;re like me and looking for as many semantically correct hooks to tie your CSS to, fieldset is a winner.</p>
	<p>Another interesting, ofttimes misused and obscure tag for you is the <em><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.5.6" rel="nofollow">address</a></em> tag. It is not just used for any old address, but specifically for the contact details of the owner/publisher of the document.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-844</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:42:35 +1000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here was an interesting effort to fix up the &lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/04/the_q_tag&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Q tag problem in IE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here was an interesting effort to fix up the <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/04/the_q_tag" rel="nofollow">Q tag problem in IE</a>
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		<title>by: ross</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-1776</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:40:51 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>OMG, I thought I knew every HTML tag in the knoen universe... but I was wrong ... very very wrong... I'm gonna start looking for a new line of work immediately...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OMG, I thought I knew every HTML tag in the knoen universe&#8230; but I was wrong &#8230; very very wrong&#8230; I&#8217;m gonna start looking for a new line of work immediately&#8230;
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		<title>by: Ayyash</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-1790</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:28:54 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, it may be so that you cannot find a real use of some tags, but a lot of people in different fields do, do not learn all HTML, only the part you need when you need it, i am sure one day, HTML will have tags to describe everything, and no, the way it looks has nothing to do with it, the way the browser understands it is all what matters, because you use an internet browser, there are braille browsers, PDA browsers, PRINTED output ... by having the right tags, it is going to be 10% of an effort to customize for other browsers... so &quot;q&quot; is going to be read by all browsers &quot;even browser readers&quot; as &quot;quotation of somebody&quot; ... &quot;end quotation&quot;, the quotes are not the point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, it may be so that you cannot find a real use of some tags, but a lot of people in different fields do, do not learn all HTML, only the part you need when you need it, i am sure one day, HTML will have tags to describe everything, and no, the way it looks has nothing to do with it, the way the browser understands it is all what matters, because you use an internet browser, there are braille browsers, PDA browsers, PRINTED output &#8230; by having the right tags, it is going to be 10% of an effort to customize for other browsers&#8230; so &#8220;q&#8221; is going to be read by all browsers &#8220;even browser readers&#8221; as &#8220;quotation of somebody&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;end quotation&#8221;, the quotes are not the point!
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		<title>by: Inglorion</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-1933</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:39:50 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice. They're all new to me as well, and it really surprises me that I haven't heard of fieldset and legend before or seen it in action--but I might have for all I know.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Nice. They&#8217;re all new to me as well, and it really surprises me that I haven&#8217;t heard of fieldset and legend before or seen it in action&#8211;but I might have for all I know.</p>
	<p>Thanks.
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		<title>by: Petit</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-2426</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:57:18 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>On the quote tag you note: &quot;And Firefox doesn’t do the single quotes on nested comments&quot;.

Well, you might have been right, but you now longer are. For your example, you state that you didn't put in the quote marks by hand. However Firefox 1.5 gives you the alternating double/single marks.

There you go. As time passes, even if you tell the truth, you may be called a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the quote tag you note: &#8220;And Firefox doesn’t do the single quotes on nested comments&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Well, you might have been right, but you now longer are. For your example, you state that you didn&#8217;t put in the quote marks by hand. However Firefox 1.5 gives you the alternating double/single marks.</p>
	<p>There you go. As time passes, even if you tell the truth, you may be called a liar.
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		<title>by: Petit</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-2427</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:03:02 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>Interesting!
And to hank: Really good use of </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting!<br />
And to hank: Really good use of
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		<title>by: Petit</title>
		<link>http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/#comment-2428</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:03:53 +1100</pubDate>
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					<description>&amp;lt;fieldset&amp;gt;</description>
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